Sunday, November 2, 2014

Moto Guzzi Norge 1200

Alastair Walker rode the big Guzzi for 600 miles to the Beaulieu show to find out if the Guzzi is a real alternative to Pan-European, FJR1300 or a BMW R1200 ST.

The first time I set eyes on the Norge 1200 I liked the look of it. I reckon this is one of the best looking touring bikes on the market, with its handsome lines, metallic silver paintwork and an overall balance between rider comfort and the ponderous bulkiness that machines like say the BMW R1200ST project to the world. The Guzzi looks a bit slimmer than the Pan-Euro or the average BMW, more like the FJR1300 or a VFR800, which is a good thing in my book.

First impressions when sitting on the bike, and watching as Ross Verdon (friendly Guzzi dealer in Stafford) warmed up the bike and showed me how the Meta alarm worked on it. You notice the weight as soon as you are astride the Norge, it tips the scales at some 246kgs dry, which is about 540lbs. Add on a large dollop of fuel - the Norge carries 23 litres - and some engine/fork oil and you really begin to feel that this one shire horse of a motorcycle. But rivals like the Pan-Euro and the BMW R1200ST/RT range are fairly beefy too and the average touring motorcycle rider shouldn’t worry too much, as the Norge soon loses its heavyweight feel once the clutch is home and the wheels are rolling.

The clutch by the way is excellent on the Norge, very light in its operation, although it made an almighty racket when it was pulled in. No problem apparently, just a dry clutch, but if I’d paid £8600 for this bike, I don’t think I’d be that impressed.

Meanwhile, what about the famously clunky Guzzi gearbox you ask? Well, it’s getting better, slowly, but still has a tendency to resist selecting first gear at standstill, yet working well on most other changes. Regular Guzz-isti won’t be fazed by the transmission, but it does lack the relative finesse of say a BMW or Honda `box, being about as clunky as any Harley.

The Norge 1200 engine itself is impressive however, and needs no excuses made on its behalf. The V-twin has plenty of lowdown grunt and revs freely through the 3,000-7,000rpm range, which is where most touring riders want a great lunging surge of power to propel two people, plus luggage, past a line of cars. It’s an 1151cc engine, up from 1064cc on the Breva 1100, and compression rises slightly too. There must be some other tweaks, as the claimed peak power jumps from 86bhp on the Breva to 95bhp on the Norge. It doesn’t feel any faster however, mainly because the Norge is carrying another 15kgs of dry weight, much of it `top heavy´ type weight too.

The Norge isn’t a particularly fast touring bike, but it is certainly fast enough - you can cruise at 90-100mph all day long, where legal. It hasn’t got the sheer oomph of a VFR800 say, and although I haven’t ridden the 1300 Pan-European, I would guess from the old ST1100’s performance that the later Pan-Euro would see off the Guzzi in a straight line. But the Guzzi has enough pull to make life interesting, and more importantly, safe. I can’t say I’m always happy to try overtaking lorries on say, a big Harley-Davidson, as the engine simply runs out of steam to easily. The Norge pulls quick and clean, the fuel injection was faultless, much better than many BMWs I have tested to be honest.

On real world roads, the Norge shuffles along nicely in top gear between 60-90mph and it also sounds lovely, emitting a healthy V-twin growl as you accelerate, with just enough vibes through the handlebars to let you know that this is no bland four cylinder motorbike. It’s true, character matters, the feel of a bike is a big part of experience. It handles well enough, but there’s limited ground clearance and the centrestan is the first thing to touch down, which has no `give’ in it. The bike needs skill to hustle through really twisty bumpy roads and it lacks the precision that say the R1200ST offers.

Unlike the BMW ST the Guzzi twin isn’t especially economical on fuel, returning around 35-40mpg on a mix of A roads and motorways, riding two-up, not much better than a Varadero 1000 basically. The Norge 1200 I tested had about 1200 miles on the clock, so it wasn’t fully run-in by the way. Fuel consumption might improve, slightly. On the upside, the 23 litre gas tank gives the Norge 1200 a range of around 200-220 miles, but the fuel gauge is one of those things that indicates full up for 50 miles, then half full for another 100 clicks, before diving towards the empty marker and flicking on its yellow warning light. You get used to it, but this isn’t a bike you’d be pushing more than 20 yards to a nearby gas station.

GO YOUR OWN WAY?
For your touring comfort the Norge is available in two options, with the de luxe GTL model boasting heated handlebar grips, an electrically adjustable screen, ABS braking and a few other knick-knacks. You can buy the base camp model and add whatever accessories you feel you really need - it’s almost certainly going to be cheaper to order the 10,200 quid GTL model and have as much luxury as you can get. Likely to hold its resale value much better for one thing...

The model we rode to Beaulieu had colour matched panniers, plus ABS braking on it, but no electric screen. The manual screen needs a spanner to be adjusted, so you can’t do it on the move - not a brilliant idea, even if it is very health `n’ safety conscious. The ABS brakes came in handy during the weekend monsoon we rode through, plus the tricky ride across gravel tracks and wet fields to park at the Beaulieu show. No problems, in fact the bike only really got a bit lively when the slow puncture in the front tyre began to make itself felt and the handling went a bit AWOL. The 320mm front discs were superb, in all weathers and easily enough to stop the bike, fully loaded with kit, from speeds above 100mph.

The Norge was very comfortable for both rider and pillion for about 90 minutes, before `numb bum’ syndrome set in. Anne on the back reported that Guzzi’s vibration was `quite pleasant,’ which may be of some interest to lady readers. She also found there was plenty of legroom around the panniers to the rear footpegs, a feature which bugged her slightly when touring on the 1250 Bandit recently, although the panniers on the Bandit were soft throwover bags, not hard plastic cases. There is one big problem with the Guzzi panniers however; they leak water because they don’t close properly.

The basic problem is that the panniers need another catch on the front end of the case. Shutting the central, top-mounted lock, and the snap-on catch on the rear of the cases, still allows a small gap between lid and pannier base, right at the front of the case, where all the rainspray from the road comes splashing up from the road. The result is that your kit gets wet inside, unless you wrap everything in bin liners, carrier bags etc. When you look at the rest of the Norge and see how beautifully designed the lighting and indicator clusters are, the svelte curves of the bodywork and the seductive lustre of the paint, you really wonder why Guzzi allowed such slipshod manufacturing to spoil their Norge tourer. Another £2.50p plastic catch would have solved it.

We didn’t bother adjusting the screen on the trip, even though it was set in the low position. The wind was quite well deflected in any case, much like the R1150GS bats away the windblast with a cleverly designed small screen in fact. The fairing on the Norge isn’t quite wide enough to keep wind and rain off your gloves however, just two inches too narrow to make a real difference.

Compared to tours I’ve done on the Harley Electra Glide, Guzzi California, Pan-European ST1100, BMW R1200ST and the VFR800 the Guzzi falls in the middle ground in terms of overall usefulness. It has a nice meaty engine, matched to a decent sized fairing, screen and a comfortable saddle to make the miles tick effortlessly by. It lacks the economy of the BMW R1200ST or the Harley, and hasn’t the speed of the Pan-Euro, or the VFR800. But the Norge outhandles the California, and it has more feedback than the R1200ST when pressing on a bit - the rider feels more involved, more rewarded. The Guzzi is also more comfortable for two people plus luggage than the VFR800 or any other sports-tourer.

At £8600 for the base model, it’s also very competitive when stacked against a BMW R1200RT/ST, Pan-European 1300, or even the VFR800, which is now an expensive option when kitted up with panniers. There’s also the debatable pillion comfort and the long term question mark over the VFR’s camchain problems - will the V-TEC VFR engines rack up trouble-free 100K mileages like the older non V-TEC models?

VIP LOUNGE OR ECONOMY CLASS?
The Norge is a stunning looking bike, with a comfortable riding position, shaft drive, excellent brakes and decent sized - albeit leaky - panniers. I so, so wanted to love it, mainly because I want to see Guzzi succeed in carving out a niche for themselves just below BMW, Harley and Honda. For me, Guzzi are making bikes that are better suited to the complicated business of two-person, long distance, motorcycle touring than anything Triumph, KTM, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Ducati are offering.

When you try to fix a whole stack of luggage to a cruiser bike it can often be hard for two adults to fit comfortably on board as well, which is why I really rate purpose-built touring bikes for long trips. No two ways about it, you cannot beat a Gold Wing, Pan European or a K1200LT on a three week tour of Eastern Europe. The same journey wouldn’t be as comfortable on the Guzzi, but it would still be much more practical and fun than on a VFR800, ST3, or Honda Varadero 1000 - an impractical thirst for fuel makes the Varadero a pain in the neck - and wallet - on long journeys. The old Triumph Trophy 900/1200 isn’t in the same ballgame as Guzzi - the Triumph feels like a bike from the 1980s by comparison, crude, chain-driven and too powerful for its antiquated chassis.

Bottom line is this; `The big easy’ is what middle-aged people want, not a TT race to the Alps - and that laidback lifestyle is what Guzzi can offer, if they also make the bikes feel safe, nimble, lively enough to be interesting on bendy roads and well equipped for the money.

The Guzzi needs waterproof panniers and ABS braking as standard, with maybe an optional top case, on-board iPod connection/two person intecom and an electric screen - all for around ten grand OTR. Then it will be truly on par with the class-leading bikes in the touring sector. Right now, as pleasant and as handsome as it undeniably is, the Norge isn´t quite the luxury tourer that it appears.

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Vital Statistics

Engine

ENGINETransverse V-Twin, four stroke, air/oil cooledBORE AND STROKE53.5mm X 55.2mmFUELLINGFuel injection systemCOMPRESSION RATIO9.8:1CAPACITY1151ccGEARS6 speed

Cycle Parts

 

FRAME; FRONT FORKS45mm, adjustable for preloadRAKE/TRAIL25 degrees, 120mmREAR SUSPENSIONMonoshock, adjustable for preload and reboundFRONT BRAKESTwin 320mm, four piston calipers, optional ABSREAR BRAKESSingle 282mm disc, 2 piston caliperWHEELS/TYRES120/70 ZR17 front, 180/55 ZR17 rearDRY WEIGHT246kgsWHEELBASE1495mmSEAT HEIGHT800mm

Performance

ESTIMATED TOP SPEED130mphFUEL CAPACITY23 litres

Buying Info

PRICE£8600-£10,200 (GTL version) June 2007


Tuesday, October 7, 2014

CW COMPARISON TEST: Four Retro Motorcycles

Every motorcyclist knows the feeling: that moment on a bike when all is right with the world, when you feel at one with your machine, when there is no place on earth you’d rather be. Sometimes, it’s where you are riding. Other times, it’s when you are riding. But most of the time, it’s what you are riding. It’s a connection that a Toyota Camry owner just wouldn’t understand.

Like most things in the modern world, niche specialization has become the norm in motorcycling. We have sportbikes, cruisers, adventure bikes, sport-touring bikes, nakeds, motocrossers, enduros, and most of these classes can be broken into even smaller groups. But what if you are just looking for a plain-ol’ motorcycle? Not the fastest, lightest, most agile, or most exotic—just a good all-around bike? Well, as funny as it seems, these neo-retro machines fit the description perfectly because they are modern interpretations of motorcycles from an era before all this compartmentalization began.

But we didn’t pick this quartet randomly. All four of these bikes have an approachable size and nostalgic looks that remind us of simpler times, yet they also offer good performance. They are either fully modern in design or have been improved in such a way as to feel, depending on the bike, almost completely contemporary.



A couple of other interesting notes: We have four historic brands from four countries with four different engine configurations. BMW’s R nineT is the German company’s flashback to the R90S (sans fairing) and is powered by the most recent 1,170cc, air-cooled flat-twin. The Honda CB1100 Deluxe has an 1,140cc inline-four and is the spiritual successor to the Japanese company’s massively popular CB750 first introduced in 1969. Ironically, the Scout—a name that first graced an Indian back in 1920—is the most modern of our foursome. Its 1,133cc, 60-degree V-twin is a clean-sheet design developed right here in Medina, Minnesota. And finally we have the Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE, a neo-retro in every sense. This machine has sleek modern styling wrapped around the Italian company’s famous longitudinal 90-degree V-twin that has been tweaked and polished over the past 45-plus years.


“Which would we most want to park in our garage to ride, live with, and polish? Which one tugs at our heartstrings the hardest and makes us want to disappear onto the open road?



True to the spirit of these bikes, our goal wasn’t necessarily to find the bike with the nastiest raw performance but to determine which of these machines spoke to us on the most levels—mechanically and aesthetically, plus riding pleasure and comfort. All with an eye toward functionality. In short, which would we most want to park in our garage to ride, live with, and polish? Which one tugs at our heartstrings the hardest and makes us want to disappear onto the open road?

With these questions to answer, we thought about how the owners of these bikes would use them. Since three of the four could be called modern café racers, and the fourth will be no stranger to watering holes far and wide, we decided to do exactly that. We’d bop from bike hangout to eating establishment to watering hole, with miles of enjoyable roads in between. We’d ride from Orange County to downtown LA for breakfast at the 90-year-old Original Pantry then head north to Santa Barbara County and the Cold Spring Tavern. From there it was on to the wine country around Los Olivos, ultimately ending up at the old Union Hotel in Los Alamos for refreshments before heading south again.



BMW R nineT

We have to admit the Beemer was the pre-ride favorite, with its sleek styling and snappy spec-sheet stats. And, for the most part, it didn’t disappoint. From a performance perspective, the nineT is the lightest (461 pounds dry), most powerful (96.5 hp/76 pound-feet), and shortest of the bunch, which gives it the advantage when the inevitable acceleration and back-road scratching contests ensue. “The engine is full of character and offers plenty of easy-to-use low- to midrange power,” Road Test Editor Don Canet said. “There’s a slight lull in the middle of the delivery that fools you into thinking it’s signing off, but a good twist of throttle unleashes an impressive top-end rush of acceleration.” The transmission worked well on the road but missed shifts and popped out of gear during quarter-mile testing.

Hit a tight twisty road, and the BMW is definitely the bike to be on. A sporty riding position, crisp handling, and strong brakes help the R nineT leave other bikes in the dust. But around town, the Beemer is also in its element. Light steering and a low center of gravity make it easy to manage at low speeds. Good torque, crisp fueling, and an easy-to-modulate clutch make the R nineT at home in an urban environment full of surface streets and parking lots.

The one place the BMW fell a bit short was in longer-range comfort and suspension response. “The seat is narrow up front and not conducive to hugging the tank for long periods,” Canet said. “Moving rearward onto the plush area of the saddle makes for a long reach to the bars that places more weight on your wrists.” The nonadjustable fork and preload- and rebound-adjustable shock provide a huck-a-buck ride over rough pavement, even with rear preload set soft and rebound damping backed all the way out.

As for styling, we’ve yet to meet anyone who wasn’t drawn to the nineT. From pedestrians and drivers in traffic to the people around our office, everyone loves this BMW. The R nineT proves that simplicity can be beautiful.



Honda CB1100 Deluxe

At a quick glance, the CB looks the most retro of our group with its throwback lines, narrow 18-inch wheels, and traditional-style seat. The view from the cockpit does little to change this impression as you peer out over an analog tach, speedo, and lollipop mirrors.

When we hit the highway, the Honda was an excellent choice. The seat is difficult to fault in any way, providing good comfort no matter the distance, while a neutral riding position keeps you content. But another thing we noticed is the sewing-machine-smooth engine, which transmits virtually no vibration to the rider’s hands or feet through the bars and pegs. It’s pure liquid.

Power from the four is nice, with 85.3 hp and a billiard-table smooth torque curve that offered a 65.5-pound-foot peak, but Honda put the CB on a short leash, considering the engine’s potential. “It has an amazingly flat torque spread from bottom to top—not unlike an electric-powered bike—perhaps even a bit too benign and lacking of character,” Canet said. “The stepped rev limiter in the top three gears seems overly nanny-ish, even for Honda.” On the Cycle World dyno, the Honda had to be run in third gear because the rev limiter kicks in to kill the fun prematurely in the top three ratios, neutering it more and more at each upshift. It’s a sweet-running engine, but we wish Honda had channeled more of the CB750’s performance heritage.

When we were gliding along at a relaxed pace, we really liked the Honda’s plush suspension, neutral steering, and stability, but when the pace was kicked up a notch, the suspension wasn’t up to the speed set by the BMW and Moto Guzzi. You really have to decide on what trade-offs you’re willing to make.

Our CB is the new-for-2014 Deluxe, which gets a few upgrades compared to the standard model, including Combined ABS, a 0.5-gallon-larger fuel tank, and a 4-into-2 exhaust system instead of a 4-into-1. Both models get a six-speed transmission for 2014. Additionally, the Candy Red color of our testbike is available only on the Deluxe, while the standard model comes only in black.



Indian Scout

One of the first things you notice when you walk up to the Scout is how small and compact it is. And all of us found this very refreshing, as bigger is definitely not always better. With its scaled-down size, you get a much lighter bike as a bonus. Sure, this 550-pound Indian is the heaviest of this foursome by 3 pounds, but in the cruiser world it’s the equivalent of a Victoria’s Secret swimsuit model.

Throw a leg over the Scout and you immediately find a very comfortable and neutral riding position (of course, after getting off the other three mid-control bikes, finding the forward-mounted footpegs was an amusing exercise). The cowhide saddle is deeply padded yet supportive, the handlebar is set at a comfortable height/reach, and your feet fall at a natural location. Our only complaint with the riding position: You are locked in a single spot, which means you can’t move around to relieve your backside from time to time.



The Scout’s liquid-cooled four-valve-per-cylinder DOHC V-twin has a revvy top-end rush that delivers 86.3 hp yet also produces a beautifully flat torque curve that stays north of 60 pound-feet from 2,500 to 7,200 rpm and never dips below 50. What is also impressive is the counterbalanced engine’s low level of vibration, felt as a slight tingle through the annoyingly textured handgrips at cruising speed. Canet, no fan of the grips, said he’d probably develop new calluses after a few rides and not feel any pain. Despite not having the outright grunt of the Euro tractors, the Scout’s engine is a solid all-around performer and never felt seriously lacking.

As the only classic cruiser in the bunch, the Indian should get its butt kicked in the handling department. Well, yes and no. Its cornering clearance is significantly limited compared to the sporty café bikes, but its light, agile handling and sweet steering belie its cruiser stance. A low center of gravity makes you want to bury the Scout into every corner you approach, but then you’re reminded it’s a cruiser with a nasty screech from the footpeg feelers at the apex. That said, ridden within the scope of its design intent, it’s hard to think of a finer, easier-to-ride new-style cruiser on the market.



Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE

“In a group of great-looking bikes, the Griso gets the nod,” Executive Editor Andrew Bornhop said. “It just looks so cool in the matte black and silver paint.” It’s not so much a flashback as a cleverly styled bike that could easily fit in with a variety of cliques. “While not trying to be retro, the Griso fits the profile all the same,” Canet commented. The matte-black wire-spoke wheels, the single-sided swingarm, the classic air-cooled V-twin, and the asymmetrical over/under shotgun-style exhausts all combine to create a bike that’s very sexy and easy on the eyes.

The Griso’s multipurpose nature becomes clear when you spend a long and diverse day on the road. “This is the sportiest bike here with a chassis, suspension, and braking package that will serve equally well on back roads and trackdays,” Canet said. But at the same time, the cockpit gives the rider the ability to move around for improved comfort on the open road or into an attack position when the road gets tangled. And the Guzzi is the happiest of the group, transitioning between the different roles. “For me, the pegs are a bit high for everyday around-town riding,” 6-foot-4 Bornhop confessed. “But they are appreciated when the roads get twisty.”

When you do finally hit those kinks in the road, you’ll smile on the Guzzi. “Swooping curves are the Griso’s forte,” Canet said. “It reminds me of carving the hill on a giant slalom run; it’s very surefooted and stable.” With excellent fully adjustable suspension that can be set up firm or forgiving, plus high-quality Brembo brakes, the Guzzi chassis is a notch above the others. And that engine...

“The engine has the most endearing character of these four,” Canet said. “I enjoy the lope at idle, the slight clockwise rock motion when blipping the throttle or changing gears. Plenty of torque, peak power, sound, and tactile feel to make for a long and happy relationship.” It may not have the drafting-table-perfect power and torque curves of the Honda, but the big twin’s graphs are a lot more linear than those of the BMW, which look like a whoop section, and the air-cooled Guzzi virtually matches the boxer punch for punch.



Picking A Winner

Wow, this is tough. All four of these motorcycles are exactly the right bike for someone.

The Scout is the best cruiser to come out, since, well, the latest Indian Chief rolled into our garage last year. Indian is clearly on a roll, and Polaris is proving to be an excellent steward for the hallowed brand. “A home run for Indian,” Bornhop summed up. “Beautifully styled, and the four-cam motor is superb.”

For many, the Honda is the only choice, as it reminds them of their bell-bottom-jean, giant-lapel-shirt-wearing youth in the 1970s. Or maybe it reminds them of their dad’s bell-bottoms from back in the day. For 51-year-old Bornhop, it was love at first ride, and we still can’t get the key back. The Honda is definitely the comfiest bike here, with the best ergos and plush ride quality. What hurt the Honda is a lack of excitement from the engine and a chassis that simply can’t keep up with the Europeans' fast pace.

We were sure the BMW would win our hearts, and it did. But it’s kind of like a hot girlfriend who’s fun to hang out with but flakes on you about 10 percent of the time. For $15K, it needs better suspension that offers effective adjustability front and rear. Additionally, the riding position isn’t quite as comfy as the Griso’s, which is particularly a bother on the highway. Lastly, our R nineT testbike burned a bit of oil, not uncommon with this generation of flat-twin; maybe BMW took this vintage thing a little too seriously.

Which leaves us with the Moto Guzzi. We’ve always liked the Griso, and in this group it really stands out. It undercuts the Beemer by more than $2,200, plus it has better suspension and a more comfortable riding position (unless you are a freakish 6-foot-4). What’s more, it matches the BMW’s power output, carves up mountain roads with authority, and, well, we can’t keep our eyes off it either. Even those editors who didn’t pick the Guzzi as their favorite ranked the Griso right near the top. With its style, performance, comfort, and handling, the Griso is one sweet package. Bella!

Specifications

BMW R nineTHonda CB1100 DeluxeIndian ScoutMoto Guzzi Griso 8V SEPRICE$14,900$11,899$11,299$12,690DRY WEIGHT461 lb.547 lb.550 lb.534 lb.WHEELBASE58.0 in.61.9 in.62.0 in.60.7 in.SEAT HEIGHT31.8 in.31.1 in.27.0 in.31.2 in.FUEL MILEAGE44 mpg45 mpg44 mpg36 mpg0-60 MPH2.8 sec.3.6 sec.3.7 sec.3.3 sec.1/4 MILE11.05 sec. @ 120.32 mph12.11 sec. @ 109.25 mph12.12 sec. @ 112.03 mph11.68 sec. @ 115.27 mphHORSEPOWER96.5 hp @ 7740 rpm85.3 hp @ 7190 rpm86.3 hp @ 7730 rpm94.6 hp @ 7100 rpmTORQUE75.9 lb.-ft. @ 6220 rpm65.5 lb.-ft. @ 5390 rpm64.0 lb.-ft. @ 3320 rpm74.5 lb.-ft. @ 6280 rpmTOP SPEED139 mph109 mph (limited)128 mph133 mph

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Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE.



Indian Scout, BMW R nineT, Honda CB1100 Deluxe, and Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE.



BMW R nineT.



Cold Spring Tavern.



Honda CB1100 Deluxe.



Break time along the road.



Indian Scout.



Old Union Hotel in Los Alamos.



Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE.



Indian Scout, BMW R nineT, Honda CB1100 Deluxe, and Moto Guzzi Griso 8V SE.



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Thursday, October 2, 2014

2015 - 2017 Indian Chief Classic

The base model cruiser in the Indian Motorcycle lineup, the Chief Classic carries the vintage badging and iconic lighted War Bonnet that is still the hallmark of the brand even through the fits, starts and financial turmoil of various owners during the post-WWII years, right up to the turn of the century.

Since Polaris acquired it in 2011, Indian has become its top-selling motorcycle brand. Carried forward for 2017, the Chief Classic has the styling and valenced fenders that identify it as classic Indian and it has rider amenities and features such as ABS, cruise control, keyless starting, electronic fuel injection and a manually-adjustable single-shock swingarm.
For a cruiser, I expect it to have a low seat height and the Chief Classic doesn’t disappoint. At 26 inches, even I can reach the ground. The swept-back bars and forward foot controls give you an easy-cruising windsock riding position and the Chief Classic has a soft, responsive throttle and a smooth, quick-responding clutch with very good low-speed stability. At least that’s now it seems to me.

The keyless ignition relieves me of fumbling with the key. I can start the bike with the key fob in my pocket or use a code I pre-programmed in the ignition system.

The center-console instrument cluster includes an analog tach and speedometer along with a digital multi-function display for all the usual warning and indicator lamps as well as rider information displays. The instruments are easy to read, but with a full-face helmet, you might find you have to bob your head to see them.

Bling is the thing on the Chief Classic. The folks at Indian chromed everything that could be chromed.

For comfort on the road, add a quick-release low windshield to control wind buffeting. You can install and remove the windshield without tools.

Chassis



Indian pays tribute to the classic styling by keeping the elegant sweep of the valenced fenders — a hallmark of the brand since 1940 — along with the iconic tank emblems and front-fender figurehead. Large 46 mm forks carry the front end on 4.7-inches of travel, and the single rear adjustable pneumatic shock affords 3.7-inches of travel, which is fine for a cruiser.

Dual four-piston calipers in the front and a twin-piston caliper on the rear are hidden behind painted-to-match brake covers that blend right in with the fenders. With 300 mm discs all the way around and ABS, you have ample stopping power. All this rolls on 16-inch, 60-spoke laced wheels and Dunlop American Elite tires.

Drivetrain



The triple-cam, V-twin Thunder Stroke 111 engine is the powerhouse here, breathing through a 54 mm throttle body to put out an awesome 119 pound-feet of torque. To keep the nice parallel look of the pushrod tubes, three cams operate the four-pushrod valvetrain.

Conceived and developed by Polaris Industries, this is the engine that is "honoring our past and powering our future," says Indian. It’s the first clean-sheet, proprietary Indian motorcycle engine in over 70 years.

With a true dual exhaust, the acoustically engineered system delivers the low rumble of the V-twin by eliminating high-pitch sound. If that isn’t enough for you, add a Stage 1 slip-on exhaust to accentuate the sexy exhaust note and add a pair of fishtail exhaust tips. When that rich, throaty exhaust draws attention, it should look as good as it sounds.

The six-speed transmission has a positive neutral find, which is always a good thing. With the sixth-gear overdrive, cruising is seemingly effortless doing 45 mph at 1,700 rpm and a whole lot of low-to-mid range torque.

Pricing



MSRP on the 2015 Chief Classic is $18,999. Your color choices are Thunder Black, Indian Red, or a two-tone Indian Red/Thunder Black. For 2016, you get a price break with MSRP at $18,499, though the color choice was made for you — Pearl White. For 2017, you can still get the Pearl White for $18,499 or opt for the Burgundy Metallic over Thunder Black for $19,499.

Indian covers your Chief Classic with a two-year limited warranty as long as you register with Indian at the time of purchase. If you don’t register, you’ll be SOL on any warranty work later.

Competitors





This Thunder Stroke 111 engine made me do a double-take on these Indian bikes. It’s got mad torque that comes on so early, which is one thing I always liked about Harleys .

In comparing it to, say, a Heritage Softail Classic that comes in about $600 less in 2015 and something like $1100 less in 2016, the Chief Classic has more torque. To get the Twin Cam 110 engines in the CVO line, which has comparable torque, you have to spend a heckuvalot more cash.

Both manufacturers have their own history to draw upon, and it shows in the overall designs. The Heritage runs on the rigid-looking Softail frame, and displays a somewhat chunky appearance with the abrupt elevation changes along the top lines. Indian, on the other hand, blessed the Chief Classic with a grace and flow that seems a bit sleeker, plus the full fenders front and rear lend a certain visual weight to the lower lines.

Personally, I’ve always been a fan of the Heritage, but this Chief really has a nice look about it, and is classic Indian all the way. Both enjoy chrome shrouding around the headlamp nacelle, but I have to question Indian’s decision to run on mag wheels — laced wheels with chrome spokes would look fabulous.

Both rides look great set up for a solo rider, but I doubt the Chief looks as good under pillion, bags and windshield as the Heritage, so if you plan on doing some light touring/weekend trips, the Heritage will get you there in its stock condition. However, if you just plan on prowling the urban jungle and cruising the boulevard, the Chief Classic will certainly fill the bill, and turn heads doing it.

He Said

My husband and fellow writer, TJ Hinton, says, "Much the same as the Chieftain , this bike definitely shows its roots. Indian history is readily apparent at a glance and I really like the nostalgic look of the bike. I’d like to say it really takes me back, but who am I kidding, I wasn’t alive in the 1940s. Indian gets bonus points for going with the gangster white-wall tires."

She Said

"I can’t deny that the Chief Classic is a nice looking bike and as a cruiser, it’s an awesome performer. I have to admit, though, that I prefer the gorgeous desert tan leather on the Chief Vintage . I really like that Thunderstroke 111 engine. It’s made me a real Indian fan."

Specifications

Drivetrain:Engine Type:Thunder Stroke® 111, V-TwinDisplacement:111 cubic-inchesCooling System:Air/Oil CoolerValvetrain:Two Valves Per Cylinder, Hydraulic LiftersBore:3.976 inches (101 mm)Stroke:4.449 inches (113 mm)Compression Ratio:9.5 to 1Electronic Fuel Injection System:Closed Loop Fuel Injection / 54 mm BorePeak Torque (J1349:119.2 pound-feet at 3,000 rpmRev Limit:5,400 rpm/Driven Clutch:Wet, Multi-plateTransmission/Primary Drive:Gear Drive Wet ClutchGear Ratio (Overall):1st:9.403 to 12nd:6.411 to 13rd:4.763 to 14th:3.796 to 15th:3.243 to 16th:2.789 to 1Final Drive:Belt - 2.2 to 1Exhaust System:1 into 2 with Catalytic Converter, Split Dual Exhaust with Cross-OverChassis:Swingarm:Cast AluminumSuspension: Front:Telescopic Fork, 46 mm Cartridge Forks with Dual Rate SpringsSuspension: Front Travel:4.7 inchesSuspension: Rear:Single ShockSuspension: Rear Travel:3.7 inchesBrakes: Front:Dual/ Floating Rotor/ Four-Piston Calipers Dual Front/ 300 MM with ABSBrakes: Rear:Single/ Floating Rotor/ Two-Piston Caliper/ 300 MM with ABSTires: Front:Dunlop® American Elite 130/90B16 67HTires: Rear:Dunlop® American Elite 180/65B16 81HWheels: Front:60-Spoke 16 inches x 3.5 inchesWheels: Rear:60-Spoke 16 inches x 5 inchesRake:29 degreesTrail:6.1 inchesDimensions:Overall Length:103.5 inchesOverall Height:46.3 inchesOverall Width:40.4 inchesSeat Height:26.0 inchesWheelbase:68.1 inchesGround Clearance:5.5 inchesDetails:Fuel Capacity:5.5 GallonsFuel Requirements91 octane minimum (R+M/2 Method)Reserve Fuel:1 GallonGVWR:1260 PoundsMaximum Load Capacity:448 PoundsWeight - Empty Tank:778 PoundsWeight - Full Tank:812 PoundsStandard Equipment:ABS; Cast Aluminum Frame with Integrated Air-Box; Cruise Control; Keyless Start; Light Bar; Genuine Leather SeatsGauges:Tank Mounted Electronic Speedometer with Odometer; Dual Tripmeters; Digital Tachometer; Ambient Air Temperature; Fuel Range; Average Fuel Economy; Battery Voltage; Gear Position Display; Real-Time Clock; Vehicle Trouble Code Readout; Heated Grip Level (With Heated Grips Installed); Low Engine Oil Pressure; 9 LED Telltale Indicators: Cruise Control Enabled, Cruise Control Set, Neutral, High Beam, Turn Signal, ABS, Check Engine and MPH Unit Designation; Tank-Mounted Electronic Fuel Gauge with Low Fuel LED IndicatorPower Points:Front - 10 amp maximum / Rear - 10 amp maximum / Combined - 10 amp maximumColor Options:2015:Thunder Black, Indian Red, two-tone Indian Red/Thunder Black2016:Pearl White2017:Pearl White, Burgundy Metallic over Thunder BlackPrice:2015:$18,9992016, 2017:$18,499